Grief, Death, and the Afterlife

“Some spirits (like moi) just get up and leave before the going gets gory, and others don’t, but this does not mean they have psychic pain as their bodies die. Spirits do not retain the pains of life. So yes, some linger through heroic efforts, but they don’t arrive here with that as part of them.

“Spirits arrive about the same, whether they died in a horrible way or just expired in their sleep. The transition is what makes them
D&C, not the physical realities. So no one comes here hurting, although some first-timers come here thinking that hurting would be a badge of honor, and so they concoct their own sense of hurt. And boy, do we get a kick out of that.

“Once the departure is begun, no pain–just as those with
NDEs say that as soon as they transmit into that awareness, they feel nothing physical from that side until they return to that side. So, no pain, all gain.

“One of the clues is: the less D&C, the more times around.

“So when we overhear people speak about a good death, hey, they’re all good from this side’s perspective. Any problems are on your side, and with the surviving.” (11/11/2005 - G#68)



"We don't have illness here, but don't believe that all suffering is left behind. Here sometimes we suffer from a form of spirit disconnect, in which our entity parts don't go in sync. And then we are miserable--just like unstable entities. We feel (if feeling is the right word) as if we are on the verge of disassembly... ouch. We can't get our acts together, so to speak, and so we can't speak, so to think, and our thoughts just don't go through. It's like being a set of mismatched parts, and being alone as each part.

"But since we spirits... oooOOOooo... don't and can't communicate in that mode, and we'd rather not remember it, it is not often mentioned... and I'm sick of talking about... ! Even expressing it feels bad. Pithpit: bigger than a tidbit and tastier, too... ARF." (12/9/2005 - G#69)



"Energy always flows inordinately when we assume responsibility for another spirit. Mothers are exhausted because of this; novice counselors, and first-year ministers, and people with bad boundaries. When the personal circumstances don’t warrant the exhaustion perceived, then this is often the case.

“So, a person experiences a death, and their life seems to move ahead, but they are tired by a life which makes few demands. Look for a link of assumed responsibility with the departed spirit. The reason some talk of taking spirits to the light is not about the spirits, but about them getting to be able to feel free of the assumed responsibility. The dead can get to the light perfectly well, unless some living are hanging on. And don’t do us any favors. Know it is you the favor is for! But I rant.” (8/6/2007 - G#70)




"Some spirits are here, but think they are alone because this doesn’t match their suppositions. They believe, but not in this exact plane. It will dawn on them, and suddenly they’ll say ‘Wow, where did you all come from.’ And others just wander as if alone forever, while in the midst of us. Consider being right by LD and not knowing it. It is just like you there, until one day a spirit pops out and you suddenly see so many... ARF... and dogs, too... meow... and cats, too... grrrr... and tigers, too, o my.

“And when the insight reaches a critical point, suddenly we see it all--
quantum.

“So, things just keep opening up here. It means that things are more like flowers than tape measures. They have a pattern of development, but it is not linear.” (12/14/2007 - G#71)



“Now, some of my detractors have said I give a great reading but I’m short on specifics about the afterlife. They say I’m just a spirit with a rap. They say they can’t get definite answers from PtoPs. Now let me just say this: Ah. It’s like this:

“I met this spirit down by the Second Gradius of Doubt. He had been around a number of times, and he wanted to know how many times more. Now, I could give him a number, but that would be speculation; I could give him a promise, but that would be presumptive; or I could give him a PtoP about spiritual choices, and then if he opened his spirit, he could see his own answer.

“You see, this is not about me. It’s about those who hear me or read me, and then discover themselves. But if I am pressed, I will say that if you listen to me, you will get a 20% reduction in anxiety and, in the second life, 33% wider choices. And those are not my numbers, but numbers decided by the universal accountants.

“Ok, the spirit over there. Hi. ‘I’m new to this.’ Welcome. You must be tired. ‘I am. But how long will I be here.’ Now that’s the kind of question I keep hearing over and over again. This is a place of spirits that are restless. We are a restless generation. We do not sleep. We do not rest. We move, we act, we decide. And if you are asking restless questions, you are not alone. Some will tell you to relax, and others will say ‘We’ll see,’ and others will truck out specifics of the past. But I tell you--and you can take this to the bank--there is no time, so there can be no answer to a restless question other than, simply, Be. And if others want to accuse me of simplistic jargon, then I say ‘I am, and that’s good enough!’ Hey, it’s been great! God bless God, and the rest of us bless us.

“Ok, any Rikkity supporters can call in at 1-800-123-4567. Hi. ‘I was just listening to that awesome speech, and I can’t believe the spirit is genderless. Way to go!’ And now, on our Negative line. Hi. ‘I’m calling from Hell. Just where does Rikkity get off suggesting we are spirits capable of being. Doesn’t she know we are all dependent.’ Caller, are you saying we are products of something else? ‘I am, and any spirit that can call itself a spirit knows this.’ Caller, what about any elf? ‘You liberals always bring elves into this to avoid the issue.’ On the Independent line. Ayeeeee. Hi,
Spirit-Span...” (9/3/2008 - G#72)



“I think some over here are trying to establish an immigration policy. Not everyone will be welcomed. There’s a challenge. If you apply the immigration policies in life to the afterlife, do they appear sane or insane. Just a test.” (1/10/2010 - G#73)




“Don’t want to go back, because I know everything of value from before is also ahead. People are nostalgic because they forget that whatever has been will also be. So I will drop that ice cream cone an infinite number of times, but sooner or later I’ll learn not to cry over spilled cream.

“Yep, the situations recur, but our responses may not. That’s the name of change. So sooner or later, I will realize I can’t eat three appetizers, but that’s down the menu road.

“People clutch and hold too often. And that keeps not only the situation from progressing, but also the person. That which we hold tightly holds us just as tightly back. IN said it:
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. So, grasp for events only if you are willing to be grabbed back... or groped back. Gropeback Mountain.” (3/25/2010 - G#74)



“Spirits arrive with their matrix of connection showing as energy. And those strongly connected by what you call love and we call connection, arrive with brilliant energy displays beyond their own energy. It can be quite breathtaking... if only we had lungs. But you get the drift!

“It... how shall I say this... it morphs. And letting go returns some of the energy back to the living. But the dead can then replicate the pattern from their own spiritual energies. So nothing is lost, but energy returns to the creator. And if peeps on your side hang on too strongly and don’t let the replication take place, neither side moves on. And this is just an analogy of what is a spiritual process.

“So there! Ponder that. And it’s 2-way! More later, film at 11.

“It’s the patterns, not the energy, stupid. Caught in an inescapable pattern of mutuality,
as MK would say. And until we fully embrace that reality, we can’t move on–even towards more complexity. We mistake source for pattern–the curse of all religions, except SP. Points do not a picture make, even if each point is right.” (8/15/2010 - G#75)



“It’s not like pop, you’re here. Sometimes, like me. But long dying takes longer to focus, and the dissipation of focus of the spirit. Your spirit is a localized expression of the field of energy and information which is your present entity. And death can spread that out, and you need to regroup, as it were.

“Remember the
Scarecrow. He was him, but when he was being renewed, he was scattered before being made whole again. Every transition requires some level of reassembly. D&C is part of this, like when you get hit in the head, it can take awhile until you are yourself again. 'Elvis, living or dead.... Long coma.'

“So, the more the spirit is taken apart in the process of becoming non-physical, the more it needs to be consolidated. Hey, the big example was JC: took him about 40 days and 40 nights until he ascended. What do you think that story was about?
'Mostly dead.'

“It leaks, oozes. As less is needed to be physical, more becomes diffuse. So, quickies like me--I am out of there before it is complete, so little spirit ooze. Zap. Don’t place values on the process, because in the end, the effect is the same. Of course, those who have learned and remembered the most about the nature of their entity will find it easier to put it all together again, and those with none may actually be self-disassembling, in the sense they can’t get their act and spirit together because the energy glue from outside their entity is gone. What held them together is missing, and they never learned and remembered to create that within their entity.

“Entities which are self-empowering are capable of change and growth and the ability to deal, even with ultimate disconnections. Get shorn of your body and see if that is not a great disconnection. And yet, it can be freeing at the same time. Like certain people discovering there can be meaningful life outside of the 5 boroughs... not including New Jersey.” (9/7/2012 - G#76)



“Sad. Too many arrivals. Priorities need to change. Take a single terrorist incident and they do all kinds of things, but something
like this and people change nothing. And they give the perpetrator press.

“So, 20 kids died and it’s over all the TV, but yesterday more than that died from malnutrition and unnecessary illness and abuse. Society has problems dealing with all kinds of weapons. And don’t give me any of that ‘sin’ talk. Why can’t we see that the acts of some people indicate an essential flaw in them, and not in everyone. Reducing bad behavior to a human flaw means no one has to be responsible in this life. What if the news today were to point to the majority who act out of kindness, care, and love. ‘Tonight, CBS News will hold a special titled “The Day They Hugged Their Kids,” and focus on good parents and loving families.' Nope, focus on the aberrants. Why give a clown like that the attention.

“If we developed a real appreciation for the good, then people would see it. But we have a great example about 2,000 years ago, and all people focus on is his death.

“Here’s a case for getting people through grief and into action. Flags at half mast is not enough. We will see. But here, too many D&C. And it will define the season for the community for generations, if it is not adequately dealt with.

“And watch the overlays that will be put on it. At least
the man had the sense to express emotions and not overlays (God’s larger plan, inherent sin, devil made him do it, a sign of our permissive culture, etc.), so they don’t have to think or feel or refrain from thinking. Everyone trying to do something, instead of being with it.” (12/15/2012 - G#77)



“So, a reminder. Events may illumine a pattern of culture, but they do not create a pattern. And the results of cultural understandings may not reveal the understandings. Everyone likes to point to events and say, ‘See!’ See what? Events are merely the lenses through which we perceive things.

“A gunman walks down the street. A sudden rustle at the corner catches his attention. He raises his assault rifle to his shoulder. Another rustle, and he lets off many rounds. The boys playing marbles in the shadows lie dead. What’s happening. Is he a mentally ill person on a mission of revenge or a mission of hatred or a mission of delusion, or is he an American soldier in a town in Afghanistan. And what makes any one of those different from any other–especially to the dead.

“We can always find excuses and blame. Understanding is harder, because of the lenses we wear and use.

“And most people don’t know how to grieve, so they go for brief grief. And what about 40 days and 40 nights from now for a national discussion of feelings and understandings–a holiday that is really for something valuable and visionary. Just mooing.” (12/18/2012 - G#78)



“About talking about dead people: I remind survivors to not censor what the grieving say. The grieving don’t want to hear 'yes' or 'no.' They want to hear 'Tell me more.' Because maybe the pattern of the dimes they see is all that is holding them together. Plus, we went to a lot of work to arrange the dimes!

“People should be able to say outrageous things by conventional standards, because what they are experiencing seems outrageous.

“And love does not follow reason, but rather experience. So, they will tread a little way into the waters of the conversational unknown, and see if others will either wade with them, or at least stand as lifeguards on the shore, before they plunge all the way into the stream of reality they are experiencing. To be with or for someone is to be willing to get wet in their stream, rather than insist on staying on the comfortable beach.

“And even people who have never swum those waters can wade with those they care about, and not panic at the thought of the water.

“The greatest gift someone can give a griever is validation of their experience. And the best validation is not agreement, but rather, interest. Pith.” (7/28/2013 - G#79)




"Mr. Rogers presents Loss and Growth:

"It’s an empty day in the neighborhood. You won’t be my neighbor anymore.

"Boys and girls, this is a pile of dirt. We dug it up to make a hole. There are 2 kinds of holes--one with an h and one with a w. This is one with an h, and it’s deep and rectangular. Can you say rectangular. We are going to put something in the hole. Can you guess what? Our hopes, our dreams, our love, and Uncle Fred.

"In about a year, in about 4 seasons, in about 12 months, we will really really understand Uncle Fred is dead. But it won’t feel any better.

"Let’s go on Mister Trolley to the Land of the Dead. What? You can’t see anything. That’s because here it’s all spiritual. Now, close your eyes real tight. And Bobby, no peeking. Now, let your heart and feelings see."

"The left-out episode of Mr. Rogers." (11/14/2013 - G#80)




“I need to reprise something I said about 16 years ago, your time. When death comes, we focus on the promise of what might have been as a loss. We project outward to the sorrows of a vast community who share that loss. We get angry, we get depressed. This is not how it should be. They leave behind friends, family, lovers, children, grandchildren, all focusing on the end of a promise. Yet, those many days and nights and evenings and dawns of love and laughter and work and mischief are still there. And still ours.

“What have we lost. We have lost promise, but our sorrow for that keeps us losing all we might keep and cherish. Hold fast to the memories. See them as the building blocks of relationship. I have to tell you that once they get beyond the D&C, they don’t look from here to what-ifs, and they don’t mourn what never was. But o my god they do go on about what was–all the stuff which have been. ‘Tell us about it! We sat through an eternity of Buck's Rock stories when you first got here. The Yale sagas were a relief. Until...' That’s enough! And the Papa stories. And then he showed up! And talk about stories. But we all do that here, because we cherish what was, not what might have been. Not all of us, true. First-timers don’t get with the program. Since it is all about them, they think the story got cut short. But for the others, to meet a spirit of only a few years, speaking of life being full, shows them what’s what.

“Oddly, the youngest seem to be able to let go of the mystical future the easiest. But teens have it bad, because they felt so forward driven--always waiting for a time ahead. And the oldest, in general, substitute regrets for longing. It’s not about what might have been left for them to do, but what was not done.

“Tears come and we feel loss, and then think we have to say why. Just feel. And then start telling stories!” (3/12/2014 - G#81)



“I want to give you a perspective from this side. We live–or should I say, die–with much loss. We leave behind loved ones and dreams. It is wrenching, but we also must realize that there is sometimes relief. Live with fear for a long time, and its absence is delightful. Live with pain, and enjoy its absence. Live with the threat of death... now, there’s a thought: anticipatory grief by the dying... knowing there will be a transition and some ends, and the final chapter of hope. So, days or weeks or months are lived with the anticipation or threat of death.

“So, spirits arrive here and are D&C and also relieved. And also guilty–guilty they are relieved. ‘I don’t feel the old hurt or worry or fear, but those left do, and so how can I feel good about feeling good.’ It’s so complicated. And all that talk about being in a 'better place.' Places are physical. Feelings are not. So, the talk could be about being with better feelings, but that would make simple what is complex.

“I was pissed when I got here. But I was also sad, and guilty for being sad and pissed when I knew--or felt--y’all were more sad and pissed. Yep, grief as a competitive sport.

“Some of what occurs after a transition is a sorting out of feelings: What are actually yours? What are yours about others? What are yours about what you feel others are feeling? What would CT do? So, it takes some sorting out, and if spirits have lived avoiding themselves, this can be a chore.

“So, a new spirit is here, arriving in measured manner, trying to adjust to be-ing herself. And when you add in all the roles an entity will play, each thread needs disentanglement and straightening for weaving into the tapestry of meaning and understanding. Most leave life with a rat’s nest of experiences and feelings, and work out the patterns of understanding.

“In fact, for all the talk about 'getting one’s affairs in order,' we/you/they/everyone usually tangles them more under the stress of transitions, then straightens them out.

“So, we greet and support and hug and heal and help and just wait. I have, so to speak, seen her. Her presence is among us, but she has yet to recognize my presence. It takes a process to move from physical expectation to spiritual awareness. I mean, I thought Sandy was a dog! ARF. How silly.

“So few have any clue, and even those like you who experience this will be lost when you really experience this. There’s a long line over there, waiting to see Jesus and the Buddha and Krishna. And a shorter one to see Zoroaster. Woof. And here’s a little known truth: In spirit, dyslexia means confusing spiritual patterns. So, a certain dog appears to some as the Creator of the Universe. I just see Sandy, and some see a dog.

“So, we welcome, and care for and about. And they make their tenuous adjustments. ‘Aha’ comes, and then like the blind women, they can see. Take the veil from their spirits.” (3/28/2014 - G#82)



“It takes awhile to get completely dead. And others keep arriving. Some think they are toting suitcases–coming with baggage. I guess they were hurrying for a bus when... And they keep asking about mirrors, like we would need them. ‘How am I looking.’ We say, ‘Like the rest of us.’ And then they see CT and cry. ‘Hey!’ Well, the women do. Envy.

“Actually, there is a great striving for the early-timers to see themselves. Their hold on physical reality at this complexity is new and puzzling. They often act like simpletons because that is what they identify as–simpler entities--and dealing with a complexity of being in which some remnant tells them they are not all. Each component entity of a simpler nature has to grow into oneness together. Not easy! Like being an only child and then discovering you have siblings in a complex reality called family. Getting to know you, getting to know me, getting to know us... but not them! Always the dance between us and them. What does it mean to be us, or now me, and not them or you, but also becoming part of an even more complex us.

“By the way, hermits don’t move on until they are more social... and Herman’s Hermits, Mrs. Brown, too, and her lovely daughter... or is that glovely daughter. Ever notice that a suitor asks for the beloved’s hand. That’s to glove her or him or it.

“So, there’s a glimpse into spirit transition. Not like we suddenly plop here. Not everyone arrives here in the same way. And by way I mean, in the details as understood spiritually. ‘Some have to wash their hands.’ CT. ‘Well, they do. How else would they put on the gloves.’ O. I don’t know and I don’t care.” (4/4/2014 - G#83)



“There’s a sad young spirit wandering about, and I shared with him my experience of suddenly being here and not experiencing any excruciating shit. And he nodded and said, ‘O wow, I know. Like you look down at it happening, and say to yourself “I wonder who that poor slob is. O wait, that was me.” ‘ But out of there, gone in the nick of time.

“So, one is D&C from both the transition and the sudden awareness of the transition–out-of-life experience. And so many say--and of course, I don’t have to remind you they don’t really say it--that it’s not like in the movies... except maybe Albert Brooks (‘Bus?!?’).

“And he’s a little pissed, like I was. But then, you meet others here, and realize it’s not what you think. Take that woman over in the corner... please! She keeps wailing ‘I don’t belong here.’ Apparently, she had some faith that made promises, and not this. Always fascinating to remember that on any day several tea ladies will arrive. If I am asked once more if I want cream with that....

“Wait till you get here. Laugh a minute, and cry a minute, too. Love to see the dogmatics arrive... ARF. Some just keep trying to feel their backs, which they don’t have, for wings, which they won’t get. Shut the damn bells off. But philosophical: Is it every time a bell rings an angel gets its wings, or every time an angel gets its wings a bell rings, or is it when your wings are ready does a bell ring and then the server brings them over. Ponder that.” (11/11/2014 - G#84)

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